Could the hip-hop industry be on the verge of being turned upside down over a scandalous new book?

Looks likes its about to happen.
Nearly two years ago a rumor that a new book talking about the DL gay sub culture in hip-hop was going to be hitting book store by a former MTV executive, Terrence Dean. I remember the story as if it were yesterday. Many people took it as just another salacious story and it wasn’t really picked up on, but I’ll be damned the book is in fact completed and will hit stores on May 13th, 2008.
Here is a snippet of the press release via Loldarian.com
"Hiding In Hip-Hop" uncovers a hidden and well-known unspoken secret. Deep within the confines of Hip-Hop is a prominent gay sub-culture. A world that industry insiders are keenly aware of, but choose to ignore.According to Dean, "This book is filled with intrigue, sexy celebrity bed partners, abundance of drugs, and of course, the down low/gay men and celebrities in the entertainment industry.[Source]
I don’t know about you, but this is my kind of book. Ladies let's hope it turns everybody's "?" into "!". You know I’m going to have my copy on the date of its release. And you know I will keep you posted.
**Update ** Yes people it just got better. Charlamagne over that "The Wendy Williams Experience" just alerted me that Terrence will be on their show May 13th the same day the book drops. Wow, I wonder what he's going to say. You know I'm going to have that MP3 for you the minute I get my hands on it.
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Wouldn't surprise me to see the following in there:
Diddy, Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, Kanye, Pharrell, Ja Rule, Missy, Da Brat, Trina...
We been hearing those rumors for years
LMAO....cant wait to hear this sh*
suspected gay rappers.... Game, Lil Wayne,Fat Joe,T-Pain,Diddy,Missy,Da brat,queen latifah,Nelly
I hope this cat got plenty of bodyguards, cause this aint nothing to play with.
This book is not coming out! Do you know how many sist (sp) and decease letters he will be getting. It seems like every so often somebody is coming out with a book exposing celebs. We'll see though.
So THAT'S why Jay got married so fast!
Have fun with a fat price tag on your head. this dude wont live past 6 months after it drops.
^agreed...he'd better have a decent Life Insurance policy too lol
THE GAYME IS GONNA BE THE 1ST FUCK OUTED LOL
Finally...WE CAN B OURSELVES!!!
I don't understand why everybody thinks jay is gay....I personally don't have a problem with gay people who are honest about who they are because you got to have heart to do that...On the other hand exposing down low cats is so fun........Especially rappers who you see tryna fake like they like pussy in they videos calling females jumpoffs and hoes when they really like dick and ass.
Currently the dude is at an undisclosed location, because of the price tag on his head. His security detail will be as thick as 50s. More than half of the industry is on the DL. With all the wack as talent you people are bending over to get those deals. We are not dealing with the same industry that we began with. Shit look at what they did to LL's old book. Russ had it pulled off the shelfs and posted the re-prints. It excluded all negative and sexual comments about Russ.
It's Mason Betha (Mase),
How you doin baby.
I'm bout to leave the chuurch an get in this ni99a ass.
~(again)
LIKE JIM JONES USED TO SAY ABOUT NAS, THEY GONNA SMACK THE KOOFI OF HIS HEAD, OFF W/ HIS KOOFI
WoW Gyant, the old pre-comment sift Bobby Drake would have destoryed you for this comment:
"I don’t know about you, but this is my kind of book."
But I'm trying to turn over a new leaf. My new son doesn't need to experience the vicious disses i'm capable of dishing out. Thank young cassius Geetz, for today you are safe.
I hope this Terrence Dean nigga got the secret service working for him, cause he's gonna need that Obama protection if this book comes out, which i don't believe will until i see it.
My guess for people being put on blast:
Big Tigger
Ja Rule
Lil Wayne
Baby
Da Brat
Queen Latifa
Diddy
Gayme
Chris Stokes
Lil Kim
Missy Elliot
Neo
Jamie Foxx
Finally these guy/girl rappers would get called out. I thought hip hop was all about " keeping it real"? If your a dude and your gay, rhyme about kissing men and having sex with them. Dont go around dissing women to cover up your gayness, keep it 100. I knew a girl who was a video hoe, and she told me numerous rappers in the industry are bi-sexual, this is no surprise to me. I guess we are in the homo thug era, just look around you, especially the fashion, that shit is mad gay!! ( especially you dudes who go to jail and love to go back - yeah I saw OZ muthafuckas) Shit, 90% of hollywood is gay!!
This cat is gonna put alot of dudes on blast and ain't shit gonna happen to him. These rapper niggas ain't built for murder . And even if they were the Hip-Hop Police is all over these rapper niggas. This dude is gonna put shit out there like a gay karrine steffans. All you faggot ass rapper niggas runnin round wit ya pants hangin off ya ass and thinking that shit is fly are about to be exposed.
However, reports claim that Terrance Dean will not actually tell all in Hiding in Hip-Hop, and that Dean will not name names in his book, unlike his female predecessors, Karrine Steffans and Carmen Bryan.
Diddy was exposed in Supaheads book when she wrote that her & Xzibit went to a Diddy party @ a gay club. Lil Wayne kissing a man? Niggas been calling Dr. Dre gay for 15 years!! The Game tatooed a butterfly on his face, cmon. Cam'ron and pink? Pharrell, Kanye?
yo who really cares?.........if a nigga is gay I don't want to know that shit.....and if the females is bisexual thats wsup but them dike hoes i do not want to read about........why would you buy this book unless you are gay......i don't understand
50 get your panties ready!!!! Yayo get ur pan.... oh you already have!!!!!!!!
This book will never see the light of day! Point Blank Period! Or the book will be filled with soo many blind items or you guess the celeb till it probably will not be worth your dollar!
I hope this book comes out and exposes BY NAME so of these faggots. Thats the reason hip-hop sucks right now because of all these watered down clowns in here. EXPOSE AND REMOVE these lames.
Sh** has gotten too far, personally i dont care, alot of them niggas be drunk and smoked out they mind who knows what they do wen the cameras are off and i dont give a fuck...and take this damn approval thing off gyant damn
THE GAYME
KANGAY WEST
PHARELL
&
JA RULE
I wanna read thiz book,and I hurrd dude not puttin out no names,just makin sound alike names lol,like 2 dollars,and young feezy,..and lil kane
I wonder will gyant be in that book?
Spider Loc and Banks are be in there. Jim Jones & Freaky are gonna be in there too.
Figures... Fuck them faggots.
http://shadesoflust.blogspot.com/
I don't even know why all the "gay" talk ever shocks people anymore..Shit,there are more gay people now than straight people..These niggas walking around like that shit is cool..some of yall niggas are suspect just for trying to figure out which one of these celebrities are gay
This is not going to sit well for those undercover brothas. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I beleive 95% of the artist are undercover gays. Yeah this brotha will need the Secret Service after this, but Terrance is corageous for exposing these gay nigga rappers that I have been calling out for years. Rappers get your lawyers because it's going to be a long ride
This is not going to sit well for those undercover brothas. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I beleive 95% of the artist are undercover gays. Yeah this brotha will need the Secret Service after this, but Terrance is corageous for exposing these gay nigga rappers that I have been calling out for years. Rappers get your lawyers because it's going to be a long ride
gay rappers to be named as gay or bi/dl latfiah,mc lyte,heavy d,can run miles,mase,p diddy, jimj jones,baby,lilwayne,trina,missy,tweet,dr dre,b2k , pharell,russ,and will smith,opps and mr bentley
(1) I went to college with this guy.
(2) Ask him about being in the closet for a few years himself.
(3) Ask him what happened to that FBI investigation?
(4) Ask him if after over 8 years in undergrad if he EVER got a degree?
(5) Ask him why he has been an attention hog since 1987?
what it comes down to is this. Most of these rappers are homosexuals, and I have known this for years. This explains their overly mysognistic attitudes and the degradation of women as objects. thats why they're always like "fuck bitches..me and my niggas" its an extension of prison culture. What it really comes down to is this though: we are living in the last days in time and as a result homosexual culture had begun to profliferate and permeate into all reaches of society. Money and drugs is a dangerous mix so it should come as no surprise that most of your favorite rappers are gay. they do the work of the devil and as as a part of the pacts they agreed to when they sold their souls for money and fame, they do the devils bidding and please other men in lust filled orgies and as compensation for favors/ tools for advancement within the music industry. it is no coincidence that pop culture is becoming more and more fruit-like, because we are living in the last days, and as a result these icons/idols are here to promote the ideology of the devil (homosexuality, lust, greed, self-interest, violence, lack of love, death (all these fashions exhibiting skulls) blasphemy, and materialism). read second Timothy verse 3 lines 1-9 about godlessness in the last days and see if it doesnt describe your favorite rapper to a t. It is time to wake up and be bamboozled no longer, for time is running short my brothers. Peace- truth be spoken.
He ain't gonna talk about shit. I bet this fool don't name any names....all this shit is just for the build up.
* moresickaMC says...
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LMAO....cant wait to hear this sh*
suspected gay rappers.... Game, Lil Wayne,Fat Joe,T-Pain,Diddy,Missy,Da brat,queen latifah,Nelly
* April 21, 2008 2:57 PM
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list extended ...
50 Cent, Tony Yayo, LL Cool J, Nyce, Beanie Sigel, Young Jeezy, Gucci Mane (now THATS obvious), Eminem, Royce da 5'9 (but regardless, his rhymes are sick), Kurupt, Marly Marl (oh come on), Baby (but not Lil Wayne), Rick Ross, Trick Trick, half the dudes on Bad Boy, Dru Hill and Si$queer
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@Truthbespoken
Well Said and I cosign this comment.
spider loc will b first on da list!! he is gay!!!
One of the lowest things a person can do is to OUT someone else coz it aint nobody's business unless they gonna sleep with you. He won't earn trust of anyone after this comes out, if it comes out. What's the point? Only to try to hurt someone's reputation and for what?
Karma will kick him to the curb.
wow, its like watching a bunch of 5th graders up in here... there have been gay people in Hip Hop from the beginning, and all your wack ass homophobia is the reason people are afraid to talk about being gay. get a clue people, this is 2008, not 1982, mkay?
BOWMARION yall forgot to put bow wow and omarion in there . but who cares omarion aint famous no more he got dropped by record lable HAhahaha
omarion
bow wow
Big Tigger
Ja Rule
Lil Wayne
Baby
Da Brat
Queen Latifa
Diddy
Gayme
Chris Stokes
Lil Kim
Missy Elliot
Neo
Jamie Foxx
@ ADAMIT
We are NOT HOMOPHOBIC, we just dont support that bullshit. In fact NOONE is homophobic, when was the last time you actually seen someone SCARED of a faggot. Like they were shaking in their boots? in fact its the other way around. homosexuality is a disgrace to our culture, our ethics, our faith and to humanity. You cannot even compare it to hetro at all. HOMOSEXUALITY IS AGAINST NATURAL ORDER AND SELECTION.
Stop trying to socially blackmail us into supporting your private twisted sexual behavior, keep it to yourself!
e-thuggin....shut the fuck up! seriously yo, go get an education. That's the same wacked up biggoted shit people used to say about niggas and now you're going to turn around and do it to others?
People are gay. Get over it. And usually the people who are so homophobic like you are the ones that are gay and in closet, but can't handle being openly gay.
E-THUGGIN,
Homophobia extends beyond just being afraid of homosexuals. Disapproval of homosexuality, because you feel it's unnatural or sinful is homophobia at it's finest.
I have to thank IMA DO ME and people who are like them, it does take heart to be who you are and brush off all the haters, something people E-THUGGIN and homophobic people like him know nothing about.
PEACE
Snoop Dogg better not be in there.
@ LENORD
Disapproval? So your forcing me to except your PRIVATE sexulaity. How do social blackmail somebody to except your personal behavior? Also I have the right NOT to agree with your views, this is America. First of all I'm not homophobic I am soooooooo sick of people pulling the homo-card. I don't fear any man! Let be real what does homosexuality represent:
It represents gender identity confusion, praises cowardness in men, and promotions sexual confusion. Homosexual isn't even equal to hetro.
The Three Myths
About Homosexuality
Myth #1
Homosexuality is normal and biologically determined.
The truth...
There is no scientific research indicating a biological or genetic cause for homosexuality. Biological factors may play a role in the predisposition to homosexuality. However, this is true of many other psychological conditions.
Research suggests that social and psychological factors are strongly influential. Examples include problems in early family relationships, sexual seduction, and sense of inadequacy with same-sex peers, with resulting disturbance in gender identity. Society can also influence a sexually questioning youth when it encourages gay self-labeling.
Myth #2
Homosexuals cannot change, and if they try, they will suffer great emotional distress and become suicidal. Therefore, treatment to change homosexuality must be stopped.
The truth...
Psychotherapists around the world who treat homosexuals report that significant numbers of their clients have experienced substantial healing. Change has come through psychological therapy, spirituality, and ex-gay support groups. Whether leading married or committed celibate lives, many report that their homosexual feelings have diminished greatly, and do not trouble them as much as they had in the past.
The keys to change are desire, persistence, and a willingness to investigate the conscious and unconscious conflicts from which the condition originated. Change comes slowly, usually over several years. Clients learn how to meet their needs for same-sex nurturance and affirmation without eroticizing the relationship. As they grow into their heterosexual potential, men and women typically experience a deeper and fuller sense of themselves as male or female.
If some homosexuals do not wish to change, that is their choice, yet it is profoundly sad that gay-rights activists struggle against the right-to-treatment for other homosexuals who yearn for freedom from their attractions.
Myth #3
We must teach our children that homosexuality is as normal and healthy as heterosexuality. Teenagers should be encouraged to celebrate their same-sex attractions.
The truth...
Scientific research supports age-old cultural norms that homosexuality is not a healthy, natural alternative to heterosexuality. Research shows that gay teens are especially vulnerable to substance abuse and early, high-risk sexual behavior. It does far more harm than good to tell a teenager that his or her attractions toward members of the same sex are normal and desirable. Teens in this position need understanding and counseling, not a push in the direction of a potentially deadly lifestyle.
A 1992 study in Pediatrics found that 25.9% of 12-year-olds are uncertain if they are gay or straight. The teen years are critical to the question of self-labeling, so the facts must be presented in our schools in a fair and balanced manner.
@ THOMAS
So what your telling me is: A man is supposed to fuck a man. Mother nature intended for men to deposit sperm into each others asses so promote and preserve the on going of human life? A penis natural designed to go inside of a man ass, and his ass has glands in it that will take his sperm and develop a human child. 9 months later he is giving birth by "shitting out" his offspring?
To you lesbos, you would rather go to a sperm bank and get "ARTIFICALLY" inseminated, rather than the natural way? So you want to have test tube babies on purpose? Never even met the father, thats selfish, you made that decision for your child.
GAYS ARE TRULY RETARDED. The most un-natural fake people in the world.
WHY? HOW CAN I SAY THAT?
1. Gay dudes carry themselves like females, they talk, dress and walk femmine, when a mans bone/hip structure isn't the same as a woman. Listen faggots, A REAL WOMAN has her pelvis positioned different from men for the sake of child bearing, that NATURALY gives a women her distintive walk. and from the naked eye its obvious. When you see gay guys walking like a woman it looks off beat and strange because a man's pelvic structure isn't the same. So who is "swagger jacking" who. No who is NOT being themselves.
2. Homophobia? please! So I'm just supposed to sit back and let a gay dude offend me because I dont want to be labeled homophobic? Listen homos, I dont care if your straight or living that gay lifestyle, if ANY approaches me on some kind or anykind of bullshit its gonna be a problem. Homophobia is a weapon that cowards use.
3. Why should I respect that type of behavior? All my life every gay dude i ever seen or met has been a bitch. They staye din the house all their childhood years, scared to come outside, always hanging out with the girls. They never developed into the masculine personal and never established that masculine vibe. Which is way they can fool their female friends but they can't fool REAL men. We know when a dude is frontin' like he's tough. Faggots listen, taking dick inside of your body doesn't make you masculine, it makes you femmine
There is freedom from homosexuality.
The truth is, there are a tremendous number of homosexuals who have changed, and professional opinions are changing on this issue as well.
Dr. Robert L. Spitzer, the prominent psychiatrist who led the team that deleted homosexuality from the diagnostic manual in 1973, now says homosexuality may be changeable. “Like most psychiatrists,†said Dr. Spitzer, “I thought that homosexual behavior could be resisted—but that no one could really change their sexual orientation. I now believe that’s untrue—some people can and do change.â€9 To the researcher’s surprise, good heterosexual functioning was reportedly achieved by 67 percent of men who had rarely or never felt any opposite-sex attraction before the change process.10 “Contrary to conventional wisdom,†Spitzer concluded, “some highly motivated individuals, using a variety of change efforts, can make substantial change in multiple indicators of sexual orientation and achieve good heterosexual functioning. I’m convinced from the people I have interviewed, that for many of them, they have made substantial changes toward becoming heterosexual . . . I think that’s news . . . I came to this study skeptical, I now claim that these changes can be sustained.â€11 Other professionals have reported a range from 50 to 70 percent success rate in the treatment of unwanted homosexual attraction.12 Findings such as these have prompted some professionals to admit that homosexuals can change their sexual orientation through a variety of change efforts.
I think everybody that is interested in reading this book is GAY/LESBO.I mean WTF cares who is. Its not like any of you will have a chance in smashin.And further more Terrance is not given names. You wont know who is GAY/LESBO,cause Terrance knows his ass would get sued the hell out of.AND another thing, to me its worst to know who's been with Karine Superhead dieseased pune.LOL
Ten percent of the population is gay: fact or fiction?
Social justice arguments are effective because they sound so good. They demand an end to homophobia and insensitivity; who wants to say they are against such goals? But just as the question “When did you stop beating your wife, Mr. Jones?†assumes (without proof) that Mr. Jones has been beating his wife, so the pro-gay social justice arguments assume (without proof) that gays are victims, and that the conservative church is largely responsible for their victimhood.
These arguments are most effective in secular discussions (talk shows, interviews, university debates) where listeners are unlikely to judge them by Biblical standards. Instead of discerning which side is theologically correct, non-Christian audiences tend to side with whomever seems “nicest.†Usually, that means the gay spokesman asking for anti-discrimination laws or support clubs for gay teenagers. The person against these things – usually a conservative Christian – does not seem “nice,†no matter how nice he or she may truly be.
That is not to say pro-gay social justice arguments are unwinnable; answered properly and politely, non-Biblical ideas can be challenged in the secular arena. Paul proved that with the citizens at Mars Hill (Acts 17:22). But the challenger needs to be aware that often, because of his position, he will be seen as the “bad guy.†This is all the more reason to speak with an equal measure of clarity and politeness.
Social justice argument #3: '10 percent of the population is gay. Could so many people be wrong?'
This argument has been so overwhelmingly disproved, in secular, clinical and theological sources worldwide, that it may be unnecessary to mention it. But on the chance that the reader may need to confront this claim in future discussions, we will briefly review what is commonly called the “10 percent myth†and how to respond to it.
In 1948, sex researcher Alfred Kinsey published Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, which listed his findings after taking the sexual histories of 5,300 American men. The findings, especially on homosexuality, shocked American sensibilities: 37 percent of the subjects admitted at least one homosexual experience since their adolescence,1 and 10 percent claimed to have been homosexual for at least three years.2
Word was out — 10 percent of the male population was homosexual! Knowing there is power in numbers, pro-gay theorists and spokesmen repeated the statistic relentlessly until it became a given: one out of every 10 males was gay; therefore, homosexuality was much more common than anyone had previously thought. The concept was extremely useful to activists when, decades later, they would ask how anyone could believe ten percent of the population was abnormal, immoral or just plain wrong.
Response #1: The argument is exaggerated; Kinsey did NOT claim 10 percent of the male population was homosexual.
Kinsey's wording was plain -- 10 percent of the males surveyed claimed to have been homosexual for at least three years. They had not necessarily been homosexual all their lives, nor would they necessarily be homosexual in the future. Future studies by the Kinsey Institute, in fact, would confirm that sexual orientation is not necessarily fixed, and may change throughout a person's lifespan.
Future studies by the Kinsey Institute, in fact, would confirm that sexual orientation is not necessarily fixed, and may change throughout a person's lifespan.
The 1990 Kinsey Institute New Report on Sex states: Some people have consistent homosexual orientation for a long period of time, then fall in love with a person of the opposite sex; other individuals who have had only opposite-sex partners later fall in love with someone of the same sex.3
Response #2: The '10 percent' is misleading for two reasons:
First, Kinsey's data were not taken from a population accurately representing American men. Dr. Judith Reisman, in her book Kinsey, Sex and Fraud: The Indoctrination of a People has soundly discredited Kinsey's conclusions and methods. One of her important findings was that 25 percent of the men he surveyed were prisoners, many of whom were sex offenders.4 Naturally, a higher incidence of homosexuality would be found among prisoners, especially sex offenders, many of whom may have been in prison for homosexual behavior. (In the 1940s that was quite possible; today, thankfully, people are not incarcerated for homosexuality.)
Second, subsequent studies have disproved the 10 percent claim. USA Today reported on April 15, 1993, a new survey of 3,321 American men indicating 2.3 percent of them had engaged in homosexual behavior within the previous 10 years; only 1.1 percent reported being exclusively homosexual. This was only the latest in a series of studies proving Kinsey wrong. In 1989, a U.S. survey estimated no more than 6 percent of adults had any same-sex contacts and only 1 percent were exclusively homosexual; a similar survey in France found 4 percent of men and 3 percent of women had ever engaged in homosexual contacts, while only 1.4 percent of the men and 0.4 percent of the women had done so within the past five years. The article concluded, not surprisingly, that the 10 percent statistic proposed by Kinsey was “dying under the weight of new studies.â€
The article concluded, not surprisingly, that the 10 percent statistic proposed by Kinsey was “dying under the weight of new studies.â€
A candid remark by a lesbian activist explains how the 10 percent figure stayed in the public's awareness for so long: “The thing about the 'one in 10' -- I think people probably always did know that it was inflated. But it was a nice number that you could point to, that you could say 'one in ten,' and it's a really good way to get people to visualize that we're here.â€5
If what she's saying is true, gay spokesmen were willing to repeat something they knew to be false, for the sake of furthering their cause. With that in mind, one wonders what other “facts†on homosexuality (“gays are born gay,†“gays cannot changeâ€) may someday be disproved as well -- exposed as propaganda that people “always knew was inflated,†but promoted anyway because the end justified the means.
We can accept some parts of these pro-gay arguments. We can agree that, in many cases, the homosexual condition -- sexual attractions to the same sex rather than the opposite one -- begins very early in life. And while it's common knowledge that 10 percent of the population is not, nor ever has been, gay, we'll admit there are probably far more homosexuals in the population than we're aware of. Their claim of not having asked for their orientation is, in most cases, true; we ought to feel genuine compassion for people struggling with, or mistreated for, something they never chose. Stanton Jones of Wheaton College puts it well: “If you cannot empathize with a homosexual person because of fear of, or revulsion to, them, then you are failing our Lord.â€6
But where we must part company with promoters of the pro-gay theology is in the conclusions they've drawn. We cannot rewrite Scripture, as they have, to accommodate a sin simply because it has been shown to be inborn, unchangeable or common.
This article was used by permission from Exodus International, North America. Exodus is a nonprofit, interdenominational Christian organization promoting the message of “Freedom from homosexuality through the power of Jesus Christ.†Since 1976, Exodus has grown to include over 100 local ministries in the USA and Canada. They are also linked with other Exodus world regions outside of North America, totaling almost 150 ministries in 17 countries. Within both the Christian and secular communities, Exodus has challenged those who respond to homosexuals with ignorance and fear, and those who uphold homosexuality as a valid orientation. These extremes fail to convey the fullness of redemption found in Jesus Christ, a gift which is available to all who commit their life and their sexuality to Him.
phobia
who the fuck is afraid of a faggot/lesbian?
i like to refer to that very term as a result of many delusions of grandeur.
For the person posting the literature from NARTH, their facts/figures are outdated and have been discredited by the APA. Their journals are not peer-reviewed, and there are many ex-ex-gays who can testify about the horrors of reparative therapy
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@ KEBO
actually all the same could be said of all the pro-gay studies. All of them have been batched up on false reports and shotty scienftic prosedures. Hell, half the time they were even sure who was gay or not. but he media and gay activist continue to promote gay myths.
I kinda figured that somewhere there had to be a gay subculture in hip-hop.
Every year I am seeing more and more very young lesbians in the village and on the trains in NYC. They outnumber the young queens down on the pier.
I have been out of the closet for over 30 years and I must say that it is a shame when you really stop to think about what is going on. Young girls dressing and acting like street thug dudes, smoking pot and at night chuggin' down 40oz bottles of beer. They also have their pants hanging to parade their boxer shorts. It is really a sad thing to see.
The violence that comes with them makes it even worse. There were 8 stabbings last year on the pier at night and 6 of them involved black lesbians from NJ. They get out there screaming and hollering and cursing like men and wonder why the residents are trying to have that pier shut down at 10pm instead of 1am. It makes me even sicker that they are all black.